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	<title>Comments on: Need help and advice with health insurance (and cancer).  Any experience with Cobra?</title>
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		<title>By: Ũniνέгsäl Рдnтsthέisт™</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ũniνέгsäl Рдnтsthέisт™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay... finally able to get an answer in....

Cobra is terribly expensive, (about triple what you pay now) and once you get a diagnosis it will be expensive to get coverage.  I was quoted 750.00 per month, but purchased my own policy for 159.00 through BCBS.  Same deducibles and coverage.

Purchase a new policy quickly and get the best policy you can.  Otherwise, they will refuse to cover you under &quot;pre-existing condition.&quot;

I tried to purchase a policy through Cobra once, and it was triple my prior rate.  I purchased a new policy for a fraction of the price.  But, if you get a diagnosis code about cancer in your record, no one will insure you or they will also charge you very high rates.

Purchase Cancer Insurance, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230; finally able to get an answer in&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cobra is terribly expensive, (about triple what you pay now) and once you get a diagnosis it will be expensive to get coverage.  I was quoted 750.00 per month, but purchased my own policy for 159.00 through BCBS.  Same deducibles and coverage.</p>
<p>Purchase a new policy quickly and get the best policy you can.  Otherwise, they will refuse to cover you under &quot;pre-existing condition.&quot;</p>
<p>I tried to purchase a policy through Cobra once, and it was triple my prior rate.  I purchased a new policy for a fraction of the price.  But, if you get a diagnosis code about cancer in your record, no one will insure you or they will also charge you very high rates.</p>
<p>Purchase Cancer Insurance, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Eva Luten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva Luten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch that sucks for timing I hear Cobra isn&#039;t so hot medicare is a safer bet . If your diagnosis is bad you can apply I hear through SSI .

Try UP&#039;s advice first though better safe than sorry .

Take good care of yourself and know we all wish you the best in our own ways and according to our own belief systems .

Tall green and scaly also says hi and hopes you get a good diagnosis ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch that sucks for timing I hear Cobra isn&#8217;t so hot medicare is a safer bet . If your diagnosis is bad you can apply I hear through SSI .</p>
<p>Try UP&#8217;s advice first though better safe than sorry .</p>
<p>Take good care of yourself and know we all wish you the best in our own ways and according to our own belief systems .</p>
<p>Tall green and scaly also says hi and hopes you get a good diagnosis <img src='http://www.sathospital.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Boɳɛs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boɳɛs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>((((Laptop))) I am so sorry to hear about that. :( 

If you can get the insurance before you get diagnosed with a particular condition, it might help. However, from my knowledge of insurance companies, they are likely to not want to pay up if they get wind its a &quot;pre-existent&quot; condition. They will try any loop hole they can to get out of covering you.

I know that when my mom had cancer and a blood disorder, it did bankrupt my family. They denied her medicine and certain treatments because they claimed it was the result of  &quot;pre-existening condition&quot;. 

My advice would be, if you can get a back-up policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>((((Laptop))) I am so sorry to hear about that. <img src='http://www.sathospital.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>If you can get the insurance before you get diagnosed with a particular condition, it might help. However, from my knowledge of insurance companies, they are likely to not want to pay up if they get wind its a &quot;pre-existent&quot; condition. They will try any loop hole they can to get out of covering you.</p>
<p>I know that when my mom had cancer and a blood disorder, it did bankrupt my family. They denied her medicine and certain treatments because they claimed it was the result of  &quot;pre-existening condition&quot;. </p>
<p>My advice would be, if you can get a back-up policy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lesbomatic, hookerific!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lesbomatic, hookerific!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had some good advice to give; my own experience with my rotten health has left me poverty-stricken.  In the absence of anything else I can think to say, let me just extend my hopes that your health is the best it can be, and that whatever the condition is, it is easily treatable.  My best to you, my friend.

(((((((Laptop)))))))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had some good advice to give; my own experience with my rotten health has left me poverty-stricken.  In the absence of anything else I can think to say, let me just extend my hopes that your health is the best it can be, and that whatever the condition is, it is easily treatable.  My best to you, my friend.</p>
<p>(((((((Laptop)))))))</p>
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		<title>By: BSherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>BSherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the seriousness of your health insurance situation and you are right to be concerned.  The American health insurance system presents serious medical and financial dangers to everyone.

It is imperative that you continue with your present health insurance carrier because you now have a &quot;pre-existing condition&quot; regardless of whether it is diagnosed today or a month from now.  If you are on a COBRA plan that is expiring in March, then you must continue insurance with the same company beginning in April.  Talk to the insurance company and find out how to do this.

Purchasing a new health insurance policy will NOT cover your pre-existing condition.  Furthermore, most policies exclude payments for major illness during the first 12 to 24 months of coverage.

I do not know what you mean by a &quot;back-up policy&quot;.  As I stated, a new policy with a new insurance company will NOT cover your pre-existing condition or any serious illness for at least 12 months.

I do not wish to scare you, but there is more that you need to know.  If your insurance coverage lapses, then you may not be able to obtain timely medical treatment.  Doctors and hospitals generally require that payment plans be in place before treatment begins.  

Many American assume that patients will receive timely treatment even if they can&#039;t pay, but that is not true.  Hospitals are only required to provide emergency life saving treatment (like stopping the bleeding from a gunshot wound) to non-paying patients, but not ongoing treatment for illness like cancer.  The hospital will require that you be approved for Medicaid or some other funding source before initiating expensive surgery, chemo, radiation, etc.

Here are a few suggestions, but you need to do further research on your own to see what best applies to your situation:

*  Contact your current health insurance company and obtained detailed instructions on how to continue your coverage after March.

*  If you are diagnosed with a serious illness, then discuss your insurance situation immediately with the hospital&#039;s Billing Department. 

*  If you are diagnosed with a serious illness, then contact your state&#039;s Department of Health to learn about resources available to you.  Also contact the American Cancer Society at 1-800-ACS-2345 to ask about resources.  

Hopefully this turns out to be a medical false alarm for you.  Best wishes that your doctor finds nothing seriously wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the seriousness of your health insurance situation and you are right to be concerned.  The American health insurance system presents serious medical and financial dangers to everyone.</p>
<p>It is imperative that you continue with your present health insurance carrier because you now have a &quot;pre-existing condition&quot; regardless of whether it is diagnosed today or a month from now.  If you are on a COBRA plan that is expiring in March, then you must continue insurance with the same company beginning in April.  Talk to the insurance company and find out how to do this.</p>
<p>Purchasing a new health insurance policy will NOT cover your pre-existing condition.  Furthermore, most policies exclude payments for major illness during the first 12 to 24 months of coverage.</p>
<p>I do not know what you mean by a &quot;back-up policy&quot;.  As I stated, a new policy with a new insurance company will NOT cover your pre-existing condition or any serious illness for at least 12 months.</p>
<p>I do not wish to scare you, but there is more that you need to know.  If your insurance coverage lapses, then you may not be able to obtain timely medical treatment.  Doctors and hospitals generally require that payment plans be in place before treatment begins.  </p>
<p>Many American assume that patients will receive timely treatment even if they can&#8217;t pay, but that is not true.  Hospitals are only required to provide emergency life saving treatment (like stopping the bleeding from a gunshot wound) to non-paying patients, but not ongoing treatment for illness like cancer.  The hospital will require that you be approved for Medicaid or some other funding source before initiating expensive surgery, chemo, radiation, etc.</p>
<p>Here are a few suggestions, but you need to do further research on your own to see what best applies to your situation:</p>
<p>*  Contact your current health insurance company and obtained detailed instructions on how to continue your coverage after March.</p>
<p>*  If you are diagnosed with a serious illness, then discuss your insurance situation immediately with the hospital&#8217;s Billing Department. </p>
<p>*  If you are diagnosed with a serious illness, then contact your state&#8217;s Department of Health to learn about resources available to you.  Also contact the American Cancer Society at 1-800-ACS-2345 to ask about resources.  </p>
<p>Hopefully this turns out to be a medical false alarm for you.  Best wishes that your doctor finds nothing seriously wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: herfinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>herfinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UP&#039;s a genius.

But make darn sure they get it right.  My sister&#039;s in the middle of a thing where one doctor&#039;s trying to say she&#039;s got MS, and the other says no, it cold be something very different.  Obviously, they get treated very freakin&#039; differently.  And you probably know this, but don&#039;t be afraid to get a 2nd opinion.  That&#039;s where my sister got the reassuring news that it might not be MS.

(((LJ)))  Take care of yourself . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UP&#8217;s a genius.</p>
<p>But make darn sure they get it right.  My sister&#8217;s in the middle of a thing where one doctor&#8217;s trying to say she&#8217;s got MS, and the other says no, it cold be something very different.  Obviously, they get treated very freakin&#8217; differently.  And you probably know this, but don&#8217;t be afraid to get a 2nd opinion.  That&#8217;s where my sister got the reassuring news that it might not be MS.</p>
<p>(((LJ)))  Take care of yourself . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Hellbound Ty™: Pisces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hellbound Ty™: Pisces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(((Laptop Jesus)))

I have great hope that it is NOT cancer, and probably something simpler than this. I&#039;m sorry I can&#039;t help much, due to my limited knowledge when it comes to insurance, but I was linked to your question by a great friend and thought I should at least say something.

I love you, and please whatever this is, fight it. We all know you can win :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(((Laptop Jesus)))</p>
<p>I have great hope that it is NOT cancer, and probably something simpler than this. I&#8217;m sorry I can&#8217;t help much, due to my limited knowledge when it comes to insurance, but I was linked to your question by a great friend and thought I should at least say something.</p>
<p>I love you, and please whatever this is, fight it. We all know you can win <img src='http://www.sathospital.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NANCY R</title>
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		<dc:creator>NANCY R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first,you should grab related information as many as possiible by searching the relevant keyword in search engine,if you got good luck there ,then your problem solved.however,if you are not able to find the ideal answer by doing that,here

 http://www.HealthInsuranceIdeas.info

is the resource i recommend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first,you should grab related information as many as possiible by searching the relevant keyword in search engine,if you got good luck there ,then your problem solved.however,if you are not able to find the ideal answer by doing that,here</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.HealthInsuranceIdeas.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.HealthInsuranceIdeas.info</a></p>
<p>is the resource i recommend.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazgul King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nazgul King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am said to hear that you might have something serious, I really hope that it isn&#039;t.  What ever I can do I am here even if it is just to talk.  I&#039;m sure you will have your family and your husband to be there for you but I just want to let you know that you can always send me an email to chat.  If there is anything you need just ask and if it is within my means I will do it.  I&#039;ll write you later on facebook please let me know how things progress.

godless hugs =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am said to hear that you might have something serious, I really hope that it isn&#8217;t.  What ever I can do I am here even if it is just to talk.  I&#8217;m sure you will have your family and your husband to be there for you but I just want to let you know that you can always send me an email to chat.  If there is anything you need just ask and if it is within my means I will do it.  I&#8217;ll write you later on facebook please let me know how things progress.</p>
<p>godless hugs =)</p>
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		<title>By: MezmerizinG MasterMinD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MezmerizinG MasterMinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to hear that. To be honest, I have no idea, but I would still like to wish you best of luck and a safe diagnosis =)

(((((((LJ))))))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that. To be honest, I have no idea, but I would still like to wish you best of luck and a safe diagnosis =)</p>
<p>(((((((LJ))))))</p>
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		<title>By: skepsis</title>
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		<dc:creator>skepsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(((LJ)))

Hopefully, things will not be as bad as they sound right now.  The looming threat of cancer can strike as hard as cancer itself.  When I was diagnosed, I got the impression that I had about 18 months left.  That was 19 months ago, and I&#039;m in better shape than I was then thanks to drug therapy. Of course, every cancer is different.

I&#039;m sorry I have no advice about COBRA except that it has always scared me.  Costs are highest when you can least afford them.  I don&#039;t know how some people manage it.  I am fortunate to have both my company&#039;s insurance and my wife&#039;s, but I&#039;m not sure what will happen when I can&#039;t work any more.  Disability and Medicare, I suppose, but I know little about either.  (I feel like ranting about the clowns in Congress right now but I won&#039;t.)

I can only send positive thoughts your way, hope that you will get some good news for a change, and a promise that I&#039;ll pass on any helpful ideas I come across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(((LJ)))</p>
<p>Hopefully, things will not be as bad as they sound right now.  The looming threat of cancer can strike as hard as cancer itself.  When I was diagnosed, I got the impression that I had about 18 months left.  That was 19 months ago, and I&#8217;m in better shape than I was then thanks to drug therapy. Of course, every cancer is different.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry I have no advice about COBRA except that it has always scared me.  Costs are highest when you can least afford them.  I don&#8217;t know how some people manage it.  I am fortunate to have both my company&#8217;s insurance and my wife&#8217;s, but I&#8217;m not sure what will happen when I can&#8217;t work any more.  Disability and Medicare, I suppose, but I know little about either.  (I feel like ranting about the clowns in Congress right now but I won&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>I can only send positive thoughts your way, hope that you will get some good news for a change, and a promise that I&#8217;ll pass on any helpful ideas I come across.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now the US government will pay 65% of the COBRA costs as part of the recession relief package for workers who are have been laid off in the past year. I&#039;m getting laid off and my fiance and I are both under my health insurance. He just entered remission from non-Hodgkin&#039;s lymphoma. The provision that calls for the 65% subsidy expires on the 31st of December, so my job agreed to let me go on the 30th of this month so that I would qualify. For us, it makes the difference between around three hundred dollars instead of around nine hundred. The current health care bill is supposed to extend the COBRA subsidy, but unfortunately no one knows when or if that will pass. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now the US government will pay 65% of the COBRA costs as part of the recession relief package for workers who are have been laid off in the past year. I&#8217;m getting laid off and my fiance and I are both under my health insurance. He just entered remission from non-Hodgkin&#8217;s lymphoma. The provision that calls for the 65% subsidy expires on the 31st of December, so my job agreed to let me go on the 30th of this month so that I would qualify. For us, it makes the difference between around three hundred dollars instead of around nine hundred. The current health care bill is supposed to extend the COBRA subsidy, but unfortunately no one knows when or if that will pass. Good luck!</p>
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